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last october in the quiet mississippi

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town of pascagoula

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two local men confronted authorities

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with a rather bizarre

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story charles hickson and calvin parker

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told of a strange craft landing near

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their fishing site

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and of being taken aboard by three

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unearthly creatures

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the two men were questioned under

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hypnosis and lie detectors but their

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story remained intact

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one of the men suffered a nervous

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breakdown and is still under treatment

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among the skeptics were ralph and judy

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blum already at work on a ufo book

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with w5 last week ralph and judy

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returned to pascagoula

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judy and i stumbled into this book

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suddenly we were in a wave of waves

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ufos were being seen across the country

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again we were in what they call a flap

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and people began experiencing things

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that they couldn't explain

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something was happening in our skies in

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the midst of watergate

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agnew the energy crisis the middle east

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something was happening

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and people couldn't understand what it

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was we spoke about ufos but nobody

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really knew

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and then then it hit right here where we

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are it hit pascagoula

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charlie hixson entered the news and we

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had a book to write

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something happened october of 73

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the spaceship came with many lights sat

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three little men came out and took them

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inside they looked him over with one big

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eye

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they say what the song was for real they

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we were sitting on the other side of the

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pier with our feet you know

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over toward the river fishing in the

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river

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and the fish still wasn't biting so i

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told calvin as well

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you know we might well go home but

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i guess that's when i heard it it was

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some kind of zipping sound

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and when i turned around in this area i

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hear

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there was some some kind of crap you

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know it was like it's going to come

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right onto the ground

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but it it came on down and hovered about

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about a foot and a half

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or two feet off of the ground we didn't

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know what to do you know

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the river behind us and and uh that out

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there not knowing what it was

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so and then before we had time to really

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do anything

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it seemed like an open appearance

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and the blue light it had blue flashing

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lights as it was you know approaching

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the ground but then they went out

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and when the opening appeared some

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source of light came from the inside

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it was just almost blinding sheriff

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diamond can you tell me just what

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happened that night

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no sir i came all i could tell you there

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was two men came in the sheriff's

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department approximately 8 30 and 9

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o'clock

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they were all excited and upset i want

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to climb the walls

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hysterical crying that's

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actually all i know is what happened as

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far as me seeing what happened i don't

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know

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of course we could sell them in in the

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or in the opening coming from

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you know when it was started out the

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craft but did you think it was people

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coming out at first well

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they had they had uh i kind of thought

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it was people at first

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you know off like that but of course

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when they when they appeared there

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in front of me it was the most shock

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i've ever had in my life

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what did you see um well they

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they they were they were shorter than me

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i'd say about five foot two or three

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and they didn't have a neck their head

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it seemed to come directly to their

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shoulders

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and it had something uh it came out to a

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point about where a nose would be

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and and on each side the ears and i

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believe that they looked like they were

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a little longer on

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the ears than the nose but still pointed

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they were still important yet

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but since i was down there and since i

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was a physician and several other

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scientists and investigators were asked

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to to uh

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consult and uh and look into the

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situation i was

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asked and if would i mind if i would be

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present and i said i wouldn't mind at

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and while it is still very difficult for

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us to believe that a

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that a a spaceship landed and that robot

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type creatures came out and actually

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took these two people into

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into the spaceship these men in my

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opinion believe that they saw this

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and that they were being honest in

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reporting what they have reported

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but it seemed to me when it came out

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that doorway or that opening or whatever

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then just almost instantly they were

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right there on us

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and uh their arms they had arms it and i

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saw the arm

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moving here and and in the shoulders but

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i mean their their fingers were well but

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then they had something like a thumb and

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they were like this

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we questioned them at length and that we

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left the room and recorded everything

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all the conversation they had recorded

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between the two of them and what i kept

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wanting to pray

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and he said after all i went through on

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this earth i said why

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should i have to see something like this

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calvin parker

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i was questioning him and at one time he

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wanted to climb the wall

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i saw how nervous i shook up he was

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they had me uh one on this arm like this

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you know they had my other one like that

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and they just i just seemed to lift up

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to the same height they were off the

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ground and

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and we just moved into the crowd now

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how did they how did they lay you out do

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you remember how it happened um

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yes uh they i didn't see any tables or

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chairs or anything in there i'm not

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saying it wasn't in there because the

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light was almost blinding but i didn't

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and when they when they carried me

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inside they seemed to just lean me back

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you know and uh this this eye

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well i keep referring to it is denied

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and it moved up

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in front of me about this clothes and it

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started right in my eyes looking at me

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right in the eye

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and it seemed it hesitated there for a

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few seconds

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and it just started moving over my

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entire body

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when they they brought me from the craft

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that put along this area here

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and they seem to they didn't drop me you

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know they just released me back to the

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ground

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and uh i fell i don't know why my legs

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were weak i don't know why it was

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the fright or what it was but i fell

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onto the ground

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and that's when i seen calvin he's

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standing right over here in this area

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and he was standing facing the river

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with his arms outstretched like that

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just like he was staring at something

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can you tell me about the lie detector

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test well so that was run by

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pilcot uh pennington

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that they run this type of test about

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six times a day

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and when they were asked to come over

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here to

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to talk to these people they had in

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their mind that they

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it was just a big joke and if i

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understand it correctly they

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ran one test on mr hickson

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the machine showed that he was telling

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the truth

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then they run another one and then the

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examiner he began to wonder himself

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so he ran the third test and he believed

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just what mr hickson had told him mr

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booth

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tell me what happened that night in

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october

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well i got up and come had turned off

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the tv

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and come to the front door which you can

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see right behind me

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just as usual checking to see if it was

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locked

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so i looked out the window at the top

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and naturally i saw this object above

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the street light out there so

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that's what caught my eye with the

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lights was on it couldn't hear any

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racket or anything

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so i opened the door after a few seconds

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to step

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out to see if i could really tell what

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it was it just took off

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can you describe it well it was round

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had lights all the way around it turning

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in a

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counter clockwise motion it had a dome

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on top

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with a bright light shining out through

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the top of it

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to tell the actual figure of it or

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anything you couldn't tell you just see

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the lights and the one on top

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when it happened to charlie the

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creatures whatever they were didn't

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communicate with it

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now it's enough to say you saw a ufo too

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to give you trouble these days in some

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towns

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to be taken aboard is is just a suspect

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idea

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but somehow if the creatures don't give

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you're just a touch less incredible

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and charlie says that what he said and

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what we wrote about in the book

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uh they it was like they had a

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job to do and they came and they did it

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i think there has to be a reason why

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maybe because you could take it well it

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i don't know i think that they they know

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more of what's going on down here on

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this earth and we think

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and i don't know they might have been

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you might say looking for somebody that

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that could um that could we might say

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hole up under this train

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and uh and convince people that you know

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that that there is another world and

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that's our program for this week w5 will

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not be seen next week we're going to

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repeat ctv's prize-winning inquiry on

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wiretapping in canada

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hear no evil we'll be back on the 16th

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of june with a special

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wrapping up the federal election

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campaign to that date on behalf of carol

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taylor